Discussion on ACTA with USTR, key ground, AEA and small music rights holders

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Here is direct link to the video stream: (it is 80 minute long, so you are warned!)
http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/7200032

And the direct link from Techdirt: (very long but a lot of information!)

The reason I posted this hear instead of news links was because of the quality of the discussion and the comments raised on the techdirt page PLUS the video. I was jumping up and down for nearly two hours while watching that video!

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India is PISSED aboot ACTA and not being included.

http://keionline.org/node/864

They're calling it an "Intervention" - ohhhhh....I so like the sounds of that.

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5106/125/

HG

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Intervention? (lolz)

How about this little neato of an idea. Would you like the President of the United states to have the power to cut off your broadband access or web site? Yeah, Joe Leiberman is leading the charge along with a lot of other idiot senators who have been in the US legislature far too long.

And its going to give the web host, internet access and other infrastructure communications companies full immunity if the Feds pull the trigger like they did with Bush administration and the AT&T and other company wiretaps. Remember those?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-20007418-38.html

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Yup I know aboot Obamas desire to have "emergency" power to shut down the internet...
Problem is....

China, Russia, India ect have their own DNS Root servers....wish we had our own in Canada.
Lock down all the USA - won't hurt them much.

HG

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These countries may have their own Root DNS servers but do those root servers also share zone, domain and IP address changes with the US root servers? I may say they probably do as this will help keep the internet going.

The problem with that is that the Root DNS servers exchange this data but what happens if the current or FUTURE US president orders a website or web service down and makes those changes forced on a Root server or service. What happens if this changed data gets exchanged with these other root servers.

Do you see where I am going with this? It will allow the US president to have major daomin naming system or service to exchange this contaminated DNS data as if its good data and shut down internet services worldwide. Think of it as a DNS laundering idea like money laundering but for DNS data.

Those who many be "in-the-know" more about this, is my hypothesis all hot water??  I would love to know what you think.

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The nature of the internet is to always go looking for a new route if the original fails.
While I'm not entirely 100% certain - I don't think shutting down US DNS Root would kill the www.
Probably just those who exclusively use ICANN.
If you are overly interested in alternative root...there's a pretty illuminating wiki aboot it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root



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My original point was the poisoned cache data that might get passed through several DNS before it could get caught.  But this would be done at a US federal level and any of this data could based IP data could infect the rest of the internet outside the US.

Now I do like your idea of an alternative dns outside the US that is not beholden to these presidential orders.

But a new thought process just came across me, what if the US goverment went to the ISP's in the US and told them they had to block certain IP ranges off their core internet routers like other countries have been doing? Kill root dns servers just means one moves to another dns server outside the US but to block networks at the Router level (other than for network intrusion, illegal access or spammers, etc is just way wrong.)

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Digital Sovereignty is something the PPCA candidates are talking aboot...
I don't think they full realize the costs of running fiber under the ocean is though.
A few of them even think it would be a good idea for the gov to create it's own coast-to-coast fiber net to compete with exisiting private ISPs.

The clowns on parliment hill probably struggle to program their alarm clocks or manage contacts on their cell phones....
I really want them controlling my broadband backbone.
NOT

HG

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I would LOVE to see a coast fiber cloud around the west coast that could BYPass the telco access lines and equipment and give us on the west coast more IP access to Asia then what we're getting from a cable operator or baby bell connected operation.

Though you would have to locate it off natural fishing grounds and probably in international waters. (Up where I live, you can find it real easy.) But would it not be fun to have speeds that are hellishly a lot faster than the 15 megabits that most of the cable internet are offering here on the West coast of the US and probably more miserable speeds in the Great Plains and interrior parts of Canada and the US?

Yes, I do believe undersea cabling *is* expensive but would that speed not help connect businesses and consumers to a better level and access?

Then you have to add in non-snooping end to end encryption, man-in-the-middle clearance vector and good anti-virus proection. I could go on but would love to hear what others have to say. (And try not to get off track of this thread.)