Loopster
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« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2008, 07:46:40 PM » |
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The one good thing that will come from this, no matter what the election results are, is that the other candidates next term will want that percentage of the vote that he is getting. They will have to because it is getting bigger and bigger. Jay Leno summed it up pretty well:
<![CDATA[<a href="http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-813337207370731661" target="_blank">http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-813337207370731661</a>]]>I have seen more Ron Paul banners and signs in Los Angeles than any other candidate, and not just by a little bit, by a ratio of 10 to 1. I get the feeling that more people are aware of him than the press lets on. I went to CNN to see how the candidates are doing and they haven't even updated his page. Meanwhile, Romney has been declared the PROJECTED winner. Grrr. |
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« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2008, 09:58:52 PM » |
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Yes, let's vote for an anti-abortion anti-pot "libertarian" conspiracy theorist who's good friends with the patriot & race-war movements.
The story isn't that Ron Paul is being censored by the media. The story is that the Ron Paul movement has done such a good job of censoring the naughty bits out of his history.
Think the fuck for yourselves and quit trying to play follow the leader!
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Loopster
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2008, 07:46:43 PM » |
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Are you talking about Ron Paul? I think you might be thinking of someone else... maybe Hillary or Obama... Your comments seem to be half-baked. He is known for having the same voting record longer than anyone else without flip flopping, how is that censoring his past? He is against the war on drugs and wants to legalize pot: http://www.ronpaul2008.com/articles/?tag=War%20On%20DrugsAnd follow the leader? Are you joking? He is not leading anything. He has been banned from so many TV debates and cut right out of most news channels that you have to be an idiot to think he is the leader. http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/vote_fraud121.htmlJust for laughs, lets hear your idea of a good candidate "brains" |
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2008, 05:36:19 AM » |
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The story isn't that Ron Paul is being censored by the media. The story is that the Ron Paul movement has done such a good job of censoring the naughty bits out of his history.
Are you able to provide some linkage to back up such a claim? If you know something that we all seem to be missing then please share. |
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2008, 12:03:22 AM » |
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Well, the primaries for my state are tomorrow, and I'm still debating whether or not I want to vote for him. I kinda like him, and I kinda don't. Plus he hasn't done well in the other primaries so far. The thing I'm worried about is how he's probably going to run independent if he doesn't get the republican nomination (which I very highly doubt he will). If he runs independent, he'll take votes from the republican candidate which will help the democratic side, which makes me very unhappy.
I like McCain, but not everything about him. There aren't really any candidates out there that I really want to see in office, but I know that Hillary and Obama are two that I don't want.
I guess we'll just have to see.
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Loopster
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2008, 10:31:28 AM » |
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He has repeatedly said he is NOT going to run as independent if he loses. He said it was Republican all the way or nothing at all.
He is the only candidate to run under the Constitution platform so I don't understand how we can vote for anyone else. He wants to reinstate the gold standard too (one of my biggest hopes.)
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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2008, 11:14:10 AM » |
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He has repeatedly said he is NOT going to run as independent if he loses. He said it was Republican all the way or nothing at all.
No, he's said that he doesn't intend to. That doesn't mean he won't. Edit: okay, I've been doing a lot of reading today and it seems that I can't go anywhere on the net without stumbling over Ron Paul supporters, and yet he's not doing well in the primaries. Are his supporters not voting, or does it just seem like there are more of them then there really are? |
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"Until you find something to fight for, you settle for something to fight against."
"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding."
"You can see why Che ducked out right after the revolution. It’s a lot easier to blow up trains than to make them run on time."
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« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2008, 02:50:22 PM » |
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Are his supporters not voting, or does it just seem like there are more of them then there really are?
How many Republicans in general are voting in their primaries? Of those, what percentage of Republicans would usually be in favour of dismantling the federal government, leaving Iraq, withdrawing from the UN and NATO, and going back to a gold standard? If the polls are correct, it's close to the 4-8% that Ron Paul is getting. Then again, maybe it truly is a conspiracy that a candidate with an extremely radical platform isn't getting majority support. Sort of like how Jello Biafra and John Zerzan have never been allowed to win the Democratic nomination. |
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2008, 03:44:27 PM » |
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Then again, maybe it truly is a conspiracy that a candidate with an extremely radical platform isn't getting majority support. Sort of like how Jello Biafra and John Zerzan have never been allowed to win the Democratic nomination.
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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2008, 06:18:34 PM » |
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Voted for the first time in my life yesterday, I voted for Paul.
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Loopster
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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2008, 10:59:16 AM » |
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Yeah, I don't know how many people actually went out and voted but I have heard hundreds (yes hundreds) of people say their votes haven't been counted. In towns with populations of 300-400 they don't have a single Ron Paul vote recorded and groups of 30+ have come out saying that they did vote for him.
There are videos on google of people in California being made to vote democrat even though they are registered republicans. It was on the news here locally.
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2008, 11:28:26 AM » |
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Yeah, I don't know how many people actually went out and voted but I have heard hundreds (yes hundreds) of people say their votes haven't been counted. In towns with populations of 300-400 they don't have a single Ron Paul vote recorded and groups of 30+ have come out saying that they did vote for him.
There are videos on google of people in California being made to vote democrat even though they are registered republicans. It was on the news here locally.
I heard about that. Whats worse is that this will never get on national news, and if you try to tell people your 'a crazy conspiracy theorist'. No! The only crazy belief is that there was no conspiracy. Well Lizardmen excluded. |
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Valekhai
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2008, 12:42:50 PM » |
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Yeah, I don't know how many people actually went out and voted but I have heard hundreds (yes hundreds) of people say their votes haven't been counted. In towns with populations of 300-400 they don't have a single Ron Paul vote recorded and groups of 30+ have come out saying that they did vote for him.
There are videos on google of people in California being made to vote democrat even though they are registered republicans. It was on the news here locally.
That's certainly disheartening. Do you have a link for that? |
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"Until you find something to fight for, you settle for something to fight against."
"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding."
"You can see why Che ducked out right after the revolution. It’s a lot easier to blow up trains than to make them run on time."
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2008, 07:34:20 PM » |
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Brains comments are obviously flamebait, but I'll respond anyway. anti-abortion anti-pot "libertarian" conspiracy theorist who's good friends with the patriot & race-war movements Anti-abortion - Ron Paul is personally against abortion, but since he's more or less a libertarian, his position is to let the States decide the issue of abortion. When you look at the fact that the federal government can only condemn or subsidize something, this is the most neutral position that one could take. The abortion issue will never be solved and there are good arguements on both sides of the issue even among libertarians. Anti-pot - What? You are just plain wrong about this. At the least he would make the DEA impotent if he was president. He is against the drug war, as nearly all libertarians are. Patriot movement - Depends on your definition. How about an example? You should do more research on the Patriot movement, it includes a lot of different kinds of people, some of which are nuts and some of which are quite reasonable assuming you agree with the Founding Fathers. Race war movement - He has spoken out against racism many times. Racism is a collectivist and fascist mindset that libertarians do not agree with. |
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2008, 04:27:41 PM » |
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