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« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008, 05:48:32 PM »

So no worries, you all re-enforced what I already knew...

Except for me and MorningRoc. We said you should shag her. She is sending you nekkid pictures of herself, you are two consenting adults... I don't see what the problem is. Seriously, what other hints would it take?
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008, 06:34:38 PM »

You only live once.
I've never understood why that's seen as a good reason to do something potentially stupid without thinking of the consequences.  I usually take it the other way: you only live once, so for heaven's sake think before you do something that could fuck up your one and only life.
Because..

You only live once.

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Obviously I don't apply this logic to say, trying out Russian Roulette or base jumping.

But this is just girl stuff. What can happen? He fucks her, boyfriend gets mad, kills him? Not very likely. Of course it COULD, but he's got a better chance of choking on a spider in his sleep.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2008, 07:54:14 PM »

It might be prudent to consider how the friendship may change if he decides to go forward with his desires.
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008, 11:01:11 PM »

Fuck the friendship!...she's a cool chick and all but she's addicted to drama, if there no problems in her life, she'll create them...all day today she kept calling and leaving messages asking why I'm not picking up the phone... Its weird, as soon as I stopped talking to her for a few hours (we were talking a lot) its like the effect wore off, now I just feel like a dumb ass for making such a big deal out of it.  enloopious and MorningRoc are right, we're two consenting adults and its not like I'm taking advantage of her but its just not worth it...its done, I rather hook up with a nerdy girl like me that won't trip out over every little thing. 

Sleep tight tonight, your buddy cryptomancer won't be doing anything stupid anytime soon.
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« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2008, 12:01:52 AM »

Fuck the friendship!...she's a cool chick and all but she's addicted to drama, if there no problems in her life, she'll create them...all day today she kept calling and leaving messages asking why I'm not picking up the phone... Its weird, as soon as I stopped talking to her for a few hours (we were talking a lot) its like the effect wore off, now I just feel like a dumb ass for making such a big deal out of it.  enloopious and MorningRoc are right, we're two consenting adults and its not like I'm taking advantage of her but its just not worth it...its done, I rather hook up with a nerdy girl like me that won't trip out over every little thing. 

Sleep tight tonight, your buddy cryptomancer won't be doing anything stupid anytime soon.
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 06:13:58 PM »

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I got you buddy  Wink
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2008, 06:36:47 PM »

Its almost like you already have all the crap from a bad relationship dumped right on you, you might as well have some fun out of it. That's the way I see it. I mean really, if she was your friend she wouldn't put you in the middle of the train wreck by involving you.

If you do get into it that way just make sure you take control of EVERYTHING. If you let her have any control over your life, your decisions, or whatever she will pour that drama in there. I have a feeling that this situation is not over.
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2008, 06:51:12 PM »

Its almost like you already have all the crap from a bad relationship dumped right on you, you might as well have some fun out of it. That's the way I see it. I mean really, if she was your friend she wouldn't put you in the middle of the train wreck by involving you.

If you do get into it that way just make sure you take control of EVERYTHING. If you let her have any control over your life, your decisions, or whatever she will pour that drama in there. I have a feeling that this situation is not over.

Wouldn't it be better (morally) to not add fuel to the fire and risk further damage to her psyche? Not to mention his? Why would you want to have "fun" at the cost of making someone who is morally bankrupt even worse? You mention having control over everything, why? You're making it sound as if he's just as bad off as she is by needing to "control" everything.

In my personally opinion, it would be more responsible to let this girl (and I mean that in terms of maturity) know that it was unacceptable for her to do the things she has done to him, not to mention the boyfriend. Putting her in a morally responsible position, I think, would have been better.

...bleh, the head games make me shiver just thinking about it. Whatever happen to moral decency?

You wouldn't take advantage of a (literal) retarded person, would you? That's how I'm seeing the situation play itself out.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2008, 11:20:23 PM »

Well...101011 is right in a way, I don't believe in moral absolutes or even morality for that matter...but I do consider it unethical to take advantage of someone's weakness...she's stupid for staying with her douchebag boyfriend and the fact that she wants attention from a guy while maintaining her relationship with her boyfriend is very stupid, the whole thing has an easy fix, she just wants to have her cake and eat it too...Therefore, stupidity is in fact a weakness so thats why I'm just staying away from her and her problems.  The only thing is that she's not by any means innocent, she is an grown woman in her 20's and has more experience than me when it comes to this.  She was already banging guys at 15 while I was still wearing ninja turtles PJs (well, I still am) so no one here is innocent or helpless, just stupid, her for putting up with her boyfriend and me for even considering bringing that garbage into my life. 

Coming here and ranting about this helped me put things into perspective, I almost got into a bad situation...I know no one was going to get killed or anything but its drama I didn't need, I'm barely getting my life right now and that would have just distracted me from my goals. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2008, 06:11:48 AM »

I wouldn't tough her with the proverbial ten foot pole unless she was completely detached from her boyfriend.
Seems as if she's just wanting for attention, and showing off several drama potential qualities that I don't like.
Sure, if you can give her the attention that she wants, then that would be a good deal, but not until she's completely detached from that guy, both in word and in mind.

And never think with your penis. That's a sure way to get into trouble.
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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2008, 03:13:46 PM »

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but not until she's completely detached from that guy, both in word and in mind.

I'd like to point out that the potential for her to lie to get what she wants is highly likely.

These kinds will say and do what they please to get what they want, and they don't care who they hurt--it's all about them.  She'll never be completely detached from "that guy" or possibly any others.  It wouldn't surprise me if she's been unfaithful before, with other boyfriends, or multiple boyfriends, and thinks that "ex-sex" is perfectly okay, even when in a committed relationship.

Of course, I could be way off base here.

She's spank bank material, not marriage material.

Thanks, Crypto, for giving us something to chew on while quietly allowing us to feel superior because {sarcasm} WE would never find OURSELVES in that kind of situation.  Ever! {/sarcasm}

Done good, Crypto.  Done good.  You're actually better off paying a prostitute to get you off than do anything with this girl.  At least you KNOW exactly what to expect, you KNOW she's a whore, and you can plan accordingly.

In some ways, prostitutes are more honest than women like her.

Of course, there is still the problem of those neat, trendy diseases.

Other than the specific advice I've just given, I don't have any more, as my own love life is so much of a mess, you want to talk about being the bad example:  I am it.

So while I can give advice on what NOT to do (because I've done it)...I have yet to be able to dispense advice as to what TO do.

But I'm working on it;  I really am.

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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2008, 03:21:25 PM »

{sarcasm} WE would never find OURSELVES in that kind of situation.  Ever! {/sarcasm}


I've never been in that kind of situation. But that;s because my relationships are few and far between. I typically get viewed as the 'safe guy' so lots of friends who are girls, few "girlfriends"

Never start a intimate relationship on uneven terms, it can create a gap between you and is all sorts of bad.

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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2008, 11:47:45 AM »

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You just made it into Quotable Quotes at the PAA with that one, mister!

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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2008, 07:14:43 PM »

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You just made it into Quotable Quotes at the PAA with that one, mister!

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Ha, and I thought that one one of my less 'quotable quotes"
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