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« on: November 17, 2008, 02:09:03 PM »

Ok, I was listening to the radio this morning and they were talking about the bank bailout and how they are working on a new one. They were also talking about how the banks used our money to buy smaller banks and absorb them creating a monopoly when it was strictly against the bail out contract to do so. They said that Henry Paulson told the Congress that the banks wanted something like 6 Trillion and they didn't want any questions asked. They didn't want any contracts and they didn't want any accountability. They also talked about the auto industry bailout and the whole idea of "too big to fail."

Henry Paulson was essentially saying that if they didn't get the bailout the banks would collapse and everyone would lose everything. Its a threat.

The idea that a bank is too big to fail is ridiculous. THAT is why monopolies ARE illegal. I am sure everyone here knows that but the Congress is still going along with the whole thing. The Dems have no back bone to stand up to them and said that they don't want to "GUM UP the bailout plan" by asking questions. These guys talk about how they are screwing us all over and now they are coming right out and saying "WE are more important than YOU." They are telling us all "SCREW YOU" in no uncertain terms.

They've already started bringing the US troops on US soil to use against US citizens and this is probably the real reason why, to quell the uprising. Historically this has happened before.

Avagdu's talk of uncompromising independence and freedom is sounding really good right about now. Where are the bad asses on our side? The big bad men working in the shadows and willing to do awful things in order to make us all sleep well at night?

This would have resulted in riots, be-headings, and revolution a few years back but now everyone has 'too much to risk' so they just take it. BOHICA.

Theres probably no need to reply to this post because I'm just venting because I'm so pissed.
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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 02:46:29 PM »

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Avagdu's talk of uncompromising independence and freedom is sounding really good right about now.

It's not just talk ;-)

I'm already 'off-grid' in several ways, I just need to get a regular job for a few months to get enough cash to move on to the next phase I have in mind. Once there's proof of concept it's just a matter of expanding from there.

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Where are the bad asses on our side? The big bad men working in the shadows and willing to do awful things in order to make us all sleep well at night?

For better or worse, I believe there are none. This might be my own delusion or the exact opposite - waking up from the fantasy, but for me, I see no form of collective defense at all that directly keeps me secure. My neighbors respect my property rights and I do the same, which is why they do not take aggressive actions against my person or property.

For a stateless society to exist, this basic premise must be understood - but thankfully I see it every day so it's not hard for me to imagine.

Of course some means of collective defense would likely be arranged for communities of a certain scale, but I think it would manifest very differently from the typical idea of military and standing armies, largely for reasons of cost-effectiveness.

For working examples today just look at the national defense and foreign policy of other peaceful countries. Ask yourself why it is they aren't being attacked? Non-intervention.
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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 04:41:27 PM »

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I see no form of collective defense at all that directly keeps me secure. My neighbors respect my property rights and I do the same, which is why they do not take aggressive actions against my person or property.

Well, to put a fine point on it, _I_ am my own defense.  I am better armed and better trained than most, and am more than willing to make someone die for my person or property should someone choose to violate it.

Sometimes you gotta take care of yourself.

Once you realize that the gun control myth of "calling a cop" when you need protection is complete bullshit, and that cops, to you, should be little more than a report-taker and follow-up investigator, and that your own immediate personal defense is YOUR responsibility.

And yes, I'm angry too.

How's that Change working out for y'all so far?

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 04:51:12 PM »

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Well, to put a fine point on it, _I_ am my own defense.  I am better armed and better trained than most, and am more than willing to make someone die for my person or property should someone choose to violate it.

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your own immediate personal defense is YOUR responsibility.

Exactly.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 12:42:54 PM »

Yeah, its a little tougher when you live in a shithole like LA. I am trying to convince my wife to come with me out of state. Its tough but if I can land a job, the rest will fall in line.

Of course that doesn't mean I don't take steps for my own security. I come from the old school as my family before me did and we don't buy into this state dependency bullshit. Only a complete idiot would listen to the man and believe him.
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 12:55:26 PM »

No prob. This isn't a pissing match, we aren't questioning your cred ;-)
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 03:17:46 PM »

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Of course that doesn't mean I don't take steps for my own security. I come from the old school as my family before me did and we don't buy into this state dependency bullshit. Only a complete idiot would listen to the man and believe him.

We're with ya, Brother Loopy.

You ever decide to head Down South here to FL...you'll only be unarmed until you meet up with me.  I'll pull something fun from the armory for ya, for you to keep or give back when you buy something more to your taste.

And remember, in Wog Town, Self Defense First, Wog Defense Second...but definitely both.

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 03:47:28 PM »

And remember, in Wog Town, Self Defense First, Wog Defense Second...but definitely both.

This is just common sense, goes back to "you can't help anyone if you are in need of help"

Loopy, I totally feel your pain here. I love my country, hate some of it's laws. Leaning towards leaving, but still really torn, especially with this whole Obama thing. Not like it matters, I'm in no position to leave at this point in time.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 07:22:26 PM »

Yeah, Obama, I am sure he is better than John McCain but better at what? Clinton was better than Bush but he was still a screw head. I am going to do a little rant about him in my talk show today.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 08:50:57 PM »

Loopy, keep us informed when your next rant comes out.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 04:46:47 PM »

Well, I do a news show on my website every week here:

http://highwaytimes.com/news_update/

There is other media there as well including video(s), poems, rants, etc. I decided to add poems for the idea of warrior poets. Its amazing how fast the time fills up when trying to include everything into one show a week...

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_warrior-poet
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2008, 08:09:08 PM »

There is other media there as well including video(s), poems, rants, etc. I decided to add poems for the idea of warrior poets. Its amazing how fast the time fills up when trying to include everything into one show a week...

Tell me about it. Congrats on keeping your show going so well so far.

On the main point. It's not just ranting, you are experiencing the unnerving reality of realising that the sane really don't want to hear the truth, merely that everything will get better, in time.

Or as the Oysterband might say, 'Jam tomorrow.........Shit today!'
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 03:38:58 PM »

Yeah, pretty much. That is it. It is almost surprising how I can still think that the sane will eventually wake up. Have I been fooling my self all this time, and am I still doing it? I guess when the doors of perception are clear I will know... now, on to cleaning them.
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 09:12:38 PM »

Here loopster.  Here is the bucket of Windex.   Shocked

There are so many that can't imagine what sane....
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