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« on: September 02, 2008, 03:44:33 AM »
This just got my rolling in my eyes.  Well take a look and see what you think.

Basically a police force in Washington state is buying a camera and system that can sit on a cop car and read license plate as they go by.  Do you think your local cops should have that power to have such an automated system?

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/sep/01/bremerton-considers-purchase-of-license-plate/
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2008, 07:13:43 AM »
Eh, this is really no different than photo radar, except without the radar part. I don't agree with it, but I ca't think of a very good argument about how it could be misused either. I'll need to look into it more.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2008, 10:04:40 AM »
This system has been around and tested in the BC area for a while. They go into highly populated parking areas and do random checks and find stolen cars.

We also have a similar scarier system in Calgary for parking downtown which entials no coin/cash options and method payments by cell phone or credit card for parking downtown. You put in your plate number and your spot and pay with whatever method you want. Then how they cehck the "meters" is a very scary looking car with several I think about 12 or more cameras on it comes by and scans your plate to see if he needs to give you a ticket or not. Sorry I could not find photos of the car that checks the plates I will try and get some.

But back to the issue of a police force using an automatic dection system I support for sure, no rights are violated and *currently to my knoweldge* they check to see only if the car is stolen or recently reported in a criminal act like dealing drugs adn unlisence/uninsured vechiles. So no rights are violated and criminals (If the system is effective) get caught quicker and go to jail (hopefully but unlikley).

This reminds me to shout out to all wogs in Canada if your in the Law Enforcment/Security industry I have an awesome tool for you guys to use, its called public CPIC and is a online stolen car checker. Though its not updated as frequent as the real CPIC its useful in application whe dealing with suspicous vechiles.

http://www.cpic-cipc.ca/English/index.cfm?CFID=515950&CFTOKEN=60459433&jsessionid=1e302920531157504644031

Just hit search now and you can do it by lisence plate (make sure the marker is on the correct province) VIN number so if your purchasing a car or Bycyle serial numbers, no I am not kidding.

Oh and for your enjoyment a youtube video on the BC system ALPR (Automatic Lisence Plate Recognition):

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/U_ad5Jaa0LA&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/U_ad5Jaa0LA&rel=1</a>
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2008, 05:20:47 PM »
Can't think of how this can be misused?

Vehicle license plate recognition in marketing application gets my imagination started. 

On the other hand, I want a homebrewed system for my car.  Preferably linked to a voice recognition system that tags vehicles in my vicinity when obscenities are detected.

Edit: Groovy!  (Yes, I say groovy... in a Bruce Campbell Army-of-Darkness kind of way).  There is a project called ZoneMinder which brings some useful surveillance camera utilities to  Linux.  Looks like someone on their forum is already trying to setup an automatic license plate recognition system.  Probably could feed a targeting system (paintball sentry?) or facial recognition routines...
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2008, 05:32:39 PM »
I think it is in Texas as well, I don't see a reason for it really. Just more expensive toys for the police.
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 10:41:55 AM »
I'll tell you why I don't like it, and it has nothing to do with marketing, or misuse, etc. This is no worse than the facial recognition cameras they are installing at intersections all over my neighborhood. They are telling us all, in no uncertain terms, that we are sheep and they are wolves.

This is one of the necessary steps to a police state. Joe Stalin said that surveillance was paramount in controlling people. What if Hitler had these cameras? He could have found all the Jews much easier. The point is not whether or not they should be able to read license plates, it is just a tool after all, the real point is where does this lead to? If the Fed is corrupt (as some think it is) then this is a big tool of oppression.

In the very near future there may be class wars where poor people are the new slaves. We can already see this trend with the new bankruptcy laws, collection agency changes, IRS power shifts, etc. We have to be answerable to the world bank and IMF and these license plate recognition cameras are THE best way to get rid of trouble makers.

In the short term, they are just tools to collect money... and yes, I am paranoid, but not nearly paranoid enough.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 02:15:29 PM »
Yea, that's true. And even if you like todays' mob boss there's always the disaffected that will select another every four years.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008, 09:55:31 AM »
Yeah, reminds me of the Who song... won't get fooled again.
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