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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2008, 10:58:16 AM »

Blight is everywhere in the soil all the time, bet particularly rainy and humid conditions can cause it to grow like mad and destroy things, especially certain crops that are more blight-prone. We have found the more regional heirloom varieties to be more blight resistant (go figure)... and that's why we grow several varieties of everything, to get the data before our lives depend on it. We have had great luck fighting it with a simple baking soda and water spray, simple Ph changes can effectively beat it back, but the rain washes that away, so lots of applications are a drag.
Other chemicals are effective, but other chemicals are also retarded in that they kill alot of benificial insects and, well, I think we all know why we don't want to use retarded chemicals.
So, we continue to experiment and figure out what crops are more conducive to the environment rather than using technology to force others to grow at the expense of the water table and our health.
(more garden video to come- I'll get a close up of the blight)
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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2008, 09:12:59 PM »

Soiunds like a good remedy for the 9 month Pacific Northwest cure. (Yeah, rain from the heavens is your friend.)

We have large problem of overpopulation and rain, so there are little places in the urban areas to grow things.  But the areas that are not flooded with development, have water problems of various types.

Sounds like this might be an idea for us up here.

I'm moving back to the Portland area in a few days, hopefully and finally, with room to grow some things.
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« Reply #47 on: September 21, 2008, 11:21:55 AM »

Updated garden pics on pg.1, yo.
Also, NonServiam Radio should be operational within 1 week, covering topics that keep WOGs busy.
http://nonserviamradio.podbean.com/
(until then I've posted a great Gore Vidal/ Amy goodman audio interview)
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« Reply #48 on: September 21, 2008, 02:23:34 PM »

Nice. I'm subscribed.
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« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2008, 02:40:45 PM »

Hey TimeSmack, I am building a coop also and I was just wondering, what kind of noise/mess/smell do chickens make? My wife has said that she is against the idea of having chickens. Any suggestions on making them as translucent as possible and anything else I need to know?
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« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2008, 10:15:17 AM »

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Well, Kind of depends on how many chickens in what kind of an environment (i.e. neighbor proximity, yard size, nearest road, etc) But generally speaking, 5 or so HENS in an urban setting can work depending on neighbors. Even hens have a tendency to 'completely freak out for no reason whatsoever' on a regular basis. It's just what they do. It's pretty loud and usually lasts 5 minutes or so, but happens all the time.
Roosters in Urban setting usually= stewpot or police. (not nice to the neighbors)
They will start leaving the confines of the coop within 6 months from hatching, you can clip wings and select breeds that get too big to fly, but generally you must contain them while also giving them a good life. (see chicken tractors: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mofga.org/portals/2/mof%26g/djf%25200708/17%2520Unity%2520Chicken%2520Tractor.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mofga.org/Default.aspx%3Ftabid%3D845&h=309&w=270&sz=29&hl=en&start=4&usg=__R1D5qaUVHLcpZfAn5o7pu4bD33s=&tbnid=KOAH37x2z-JdqM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=102&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchicken%2Btractor%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG)
holy shit is that a long URL....
anyway- they will reduce a small fenced in area to dust in about a month, and they need  space to be happy.
As far as shit goes- they are the greatest producers of shit on the planet short of the mighty bat. But their shit is also hugely high in nitrogen and can be utilized in the garden with great results.
Smell is equivalent to space.
Chickens are great, low maintenance livestock, but it aint easy. Lots of work, and truthfully, the cost of raising them up and keeping them (depending on your location and winters) doesn't usually equal out to any great profit, you'll be lucky to break even. I keep them for eggs and emergency eating.


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« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2008, 01:27:46 PM »

The space is large enough. I only want two hens for eggs, emergency, and kids to learn about. The neighbors are close but screw em, they keep me up all night with their noise so I really don't care if they get woke up. I mean really, the guy is working in his work shed at 3:45 in the AM.

There is plenty of stuff for them to pick at: bugs, fruit trees, olives, grass etc. and I was kinda hoping they would wipe out the bugs which have multiplied recently.

The yard is about a half acre, the cage is 10x14 and it is on a brick patio with straw flooring. I was going to setup a feeding system that works like a hamster water bottle using gravity to feed and water them. I have heard they are insanely dirty and get dirt into everything including their food and water. The food would be outside of the cage and they would have a small opening where the food and drink would come in like a gravity fed dog bowl.

Location is zone 10-9 so cold is not a problem.
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« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2008, 03:41:23 PM »

Honestly, I'd have to side with your wife on this one, keeping any livestock is a big deal, even chickens, and two hens without a flock of at least 5-10 in that kind of space probably aren't going to be very happy, and you'll need more than that to get any sort of egg production that's worth it, but most of all, the animals need enough space to live a good life, and the dimensions you are looking at really don't seem like they would provide that.
From a purely logical standpoint- it's going to be way more of a pain in the ass than it's worth to keep 2 hens.

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= probably a meth head. Watch out for that MF.
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« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2008, 09:35:14 PM »

Just thought I would post this blog in the forums...

http://blog.holyscraphotsprings.com/

This guy has gone not only completely off grid, but also completely off of gasoline. He is working towards complete autonomous living with all the comforts off home. Some really neat stuff on biodiesel, papercrete, home grown foods, PV and off grid, etc...
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« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2008, 06:12:31 PM »

Enki: I think some one else in the foums posted some Youtube videos of Sklar and his home made creations.

Don't seem to remember where I saw those videos or who posted them.
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« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2008, 02:09:29 PM »

Hey- y'all- our new wog-oriented podcast: NonServiam Radio just launched.
Got links to all things rantmedia and beyond.
Rock on.

http://nonserviamradio.podbean.com/
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« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2008, 10:37:27 PM »

Excellent show, very funny as well as good information and excellent production quality. I like the emphasis on food storage. Keep up the good work, I look forward to future episodes!
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« Reply #57 on: October 03, 2008, 10:37:13 AM »

Right on, thanks.
Please distribute, mirror, and spread the word. I hope we can get folks thinking about saving their own ass from a more logistical approach. We need more WOGS in the field when the shit goes splat.
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« Reply #58 on: October 03, 2008, 05:00:53 PM »

Yeah, great show. ...and we need ALL wogs in the field when things go boom.

I like the way you subtly relate zombies with the sane in the time of an emergency.  Wink
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« Reply #59 on: October 04, 2008, 04:09:36 PM »

Add my two cents. 

Wonderful link TS.
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