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« on: September 10, 2008, 06:53:18 PM »

A little preface to this.

I originally wanted this to go into the PA1N e-zine, but seeing as it may not ever see the light of day, I figure I am gonna post this here. Mind you, these are the way I see things, but with this being RantRadio, I figure there should be an audience for it. It is long, so bear with me. I really want opinions and discussion of the things I say in the article.

So, without further preamble, I give you my article, The Tumble is Coming

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A thought is a terrible thing, and I've been having a lot of those lately.

Before I begin, you must know some things about me that those of you reading this may not know. I am in the United States Military. I grew up around the world in a number of countries, that for privacy and safety's sake, I will not list. The things that I am stating stem from my knowlege of the world as a whole and how the United States in particular has screwed itself up. I am a simplicist by nature. I crave simplicity in my life, equipment, and mind. I enjoy things that are simple. Knives, firearms, motor vehicles. All of these things have a simple nature to them. A knife is a tool, a firearm is a weapon, a motor vehicle is a fast mode of ground transportation. Now, these things have complexities that have come with technological advancement. These are things I do not need or want. A knife with only a few functions is fine. A pistol with a silencer and night sights is wonderful, though just any old pistol will do just fine. A motor vehicle should have as few moving parts and functions as is possible. The 1980 Chevy Cheyenne is my favorite vehicle of all time and range can be upgraded with the simple modification of two 55 gallon drums, some tubing and a little work. Also, this is the first article I've ever sent to anyone.

Now, onto what this article is about.

The world is a funny place. We started out discovering fire and everything has gone downhill from there. From fire we discovered comfort, the feeling that the night wasn't so terribly bad. We slowly began to not fear the night as we should. From fire came metals. Metals made killing things easier, and our population increased due to the increase in food, and lessening of casualties in collection of said food. Metals gave rise to new ways to build things. Semi-permanent structures emerged. Population growth once again gained speed due to protection from the elements. Life span increased, giving rise to people that could learn more, in the shelter of these buildings. Technology was born. Science was born. Philosophy. Everything we now use was born.

Now we come to present day, and I must say. It has gone and turned upside down. We have advertisements, making me think that I just NEED that new car. I just NEED shower gel that will make me attractive and buff. I just NEED that new food processor. I just NEED a double helping of fatty meat on three pieces of bread. I NEED... I NEED...

I don't NEED a single thing that those commercials tell me I do. I only need a handful of things. I need water, food, shelter, clothing, defense, and a way to make sure none of those things fall short. Water is relatively simple. All I need is a good filter and a water source and I can survive fine. Food is a bit more difficult. I can beg, buy or steal any that I need. If need be I can hunt and gather. Shelter is even further in difficulty, requiring activity that burns energy and water, requiring more, or a plentiful supply of the prior two things. Clothing keeps me warm when it's cold and prevents sunburn from slowing me down. As long as cloth is properly cared for and repaired, it will last a long time, and once again, I can beg, buy or steal the clothing should it become too worn. Defense is relatively simple if it were only against animals and nature. A sharp stick or piece of stone will suffice for that. People though, require more thought and expenditure of energy to keep from killing me. A pistol is the most useful thing ever created in this regard. It is compact, easy to resupply, simple to maintain, and if used only when need be, and cleaned thoroughly after each use, taking care to remove all deposits of salt and oil from my skin, the pistol will last longer than I will.

Advertisements and the governments and corporations that make them prey on a few basic things about human beings, particularly the mind of these beings. Ads for machines, such as boats, cars, motorcycles, prey on the want to be better than the rest of the human beings. These things have become status symbols rather than what they were originally intended. I want you to think for a moment about the very concept of a status symbol. It is a thing that is percieved to give an individual greater worth as a being than another person that does not have, or has a lesser model or version of that thing. What kind of insanity is this? A car, no matter how expensive, or how fast it can go, does not make someone of a greater worth as a breathing sack of meat than someone who does not even have a vehicle. Jewelry, bling, and fashion are all facets of the same thing. Fashion in particular is something I will go into later. All of these things are supposed to place us in higher standing than another in an imaginary system of life put into place to simply pry more money from us.

There is also something called "Fast Food". This so called food, despite its obvious downfalls, such as questionable nutritional content and toxicity level, is consumed at an alarming rate. This Fast Food makes it simple for the average person, of medium to low income, to get food quickly (thus the name) and in trade for this expediency and convenience, they pay a few cents more than it would cost to make something of greater nutritional value in one's own kitchen. The conveniencing and expitditing of our world has caused more harm than it has good. Instead of sitting down for a meal, people simply pop out and grab this overpriced, semi-toxic, horrid food. Fast Food is part of the crumbling of the family unit. Fast food is bad for us, though we continue to eat it.

Did you know the colors Red and Yellow cause hunger in human beings. How many signs for food or restaurants do you see with these colors? Bet you can name two really big ones.

Before I go on to television, I will get Fashion out of the way.

Clothing, by definition, is a coating of material over one's body that keeps warmth in, when it is cold, the sun off, to prevent sunburn and pain, bugs off, which can bite and cause all kinds of things, and to act as armor in general to the outside world. Fashion is a bastardization of this concept. Once again, the status symbol comes in. This clothing, in the eyes of most people, dictates what we are like. As if a piece of cloth covering my nude form will tell you what is inside my head. I wear a leather trench coat, I'm antisocial goth. I wear a basket ball jersey, I'm confused if I'm white or a gangster if I'm black. I wear a dress shirt, I'm a business man or rich. I wear a potato sack, I'm homeless. I wear nothing, I'm vain or insane. All of these things are potentially untrue, but you see people propegating the stereo types that keep these things going. Another insane concept is that fashion actually CHANGES. The status of your CLOTHING rises and falls in relation to the current trends. With the rise and fall of the status of your CLOTHING, so does your worth as a person. This is bloody insane.

I will admit that I do have a propensity to Oakley brand gear. I like their 8" SI Assault boots because they are more comfortable than Military Issue. Their SI Assault gloves have a carbon-fibre reinforced knuckle that is quite hard, with enough give not to shatter and protects my hand nicely. Their backpacks are damned near bomb-proof and have plenty of loops and clips to hold lots of stuff. My only guilty and hypocritical pleasure is my beloved pair of Pro M-Frames. They're silver with polarized lenses engraved with my name. They are my beloveds because they are customized to me (which cost a fucking arm and a leg and they aren't worth NEAR two hundred and eight dollars, but they're MINE), I like the way they look, and they hug my head like a Koala on crack. Hell, they don't even have hinges, so they are a true pain in the ass to store. Completely impractical. So, do I need any of this Oakley gear? No. I just like Oakley stuff. It looks good to me, its tough, and it fits in with my normal civilian wear. If you see a guy wearing nothing but tan with silver M-Frames, its probably me.

Now, onto the big one.

Television. Oh where to start. Well, let's start at the beginning and see where it goes from there. In the beginning we had the radio, which relayed news and information, along with entertainment nearly instantaneously between two points, though all was not connected, it still had limits on transmission distance and interference. Then came television; same concept as the radio, but picture was involved. Then adverts came on. Things for soap and things that could be used, because things were relatively still simple. Then all hell broke loose, satellite communication. All was finally connected and the audience for ads was explosively expanded. We have ads for cars that put us thousands upon thousands of dollars into debt. Jewelry, that while pleasing to the eye, is still just an adornment, unnecessary. Clothing that will be "obsolete" in a year or less. Movies to entertain us. Music to entertain us, which, like the clothing rises and falls. Pills to alter our states of mind (I'll go into that in the end). All of these things constantly bombard us.

The worst thing is we let our children watch this. We even let the television do the job that a babysitter once did. We plunk them down in front of the cartoon network and go to one of two jobs we work, simply to be able to pay for the thousands of dollars owed on the house. The thousands of dollars owed on the car. The thousands of dollars owed on the soundsystem and television. That's not even including the fast food we have to order, because between two jobs, that poor single mother doesn't have time to make FOOD. My god, man.

Children watch these things and are inundated with the ideas of these status symbols. Inundated with these stereotypical ideas of how they are supposed to act based on what they wear, where they live, what they drive. All of these things end in a cycle where a child hasn't the slightest clue what the hell they really are and simply act out what they see on television. We are creating cookie cutter human beings without the slightest intention of fixing it.

Moving on.

The pills. I must state before going into this particular section that my only experience with this phenomenon is in the Military. I have been informed that the civilian world is far better about regulation of perscriptions and that they are only given to those that need them for the proper reasons. I take the information I have recieved as reliable, and thus this section is in regard to the Military in particular.

Religion used to be the opiate of the masses. Now we give them the real fucking thing. I don't know when this started, but now, if you don't like your job, you don't like your way of life; instead of actually picking up your balls and changing it, putting in the work to make it better; be it through promotion, an MOS (in the civilian world, your job) switch, or whatever else it is that is making your life miserable, you go to a "doctor" and get prescribed a little blue pill. This makes everything ok. It makes you forget that you're working two jobs to feed yourself and still keep your "family" off of the streets. It makes it alright that you can't stand your life. You drift about in a drug-induced haze without the slightest inclination to actually get off your ass and make your life better. God knows that takes work and that pill is just so much easier to take. As you can tell I am particularly targeting anti-depressants, but the military gives out so much more than those. You can recieve top shelf opiates if you state the right things to the right doctors. You can get the medical equivalent of speed. You can get sleep pills that are horribly addictive (I have personal experience with this one). The Military will give you damned near anything your little addict heart desires, all for things that could be solved by far less damaging means.

Just like the fast food. Just like financing. Just like the television.

Comfort. Expediency.

Welcome to the world we live in.

So, we come around to me. You're probably asking yourself (actually, probably not, but since I'm saying it, you're gonna think it. Messed up huh?), "Why is he saying all this?" Well, the answer is simple. I'm writing this for my own sanity, because I've finally turned my blind eye back onto the problem and taken off the blinders. There is something terribly wrong with the world we live in, and it is going to collapse. Maybe not soon, but it is going to. All aristocracies have collapsed and that is what "culture" is becoming. A caste system. Everyone's clamoring for the top, and what happens when the bottom of a tower corrodes? It falls. It all comes tumbling to the ground. Take a look to history for the proof. Yes I know, the old cliche of "History repeats itself." It may be cliche but it is right. Every aristocracy that has existed has fallen with dire consequences. They eventually become heavy in one level or the other and become unstable. In the particular one that I am writing about and ranting about, it is the middle and upper class that are becoming heavy right now. Everyone wants a three thousand dollar big-ass-TV. Everyone wants a Ferrari. Everyone wants a ridiculously huge platinum chain with diamonds coating it. Everyone wants Prada. Everyone wants everything that they don't need. They want it to make themselves better in an intangible way. Status. They want a status that does not affect the fact that you still have to eat, shit, sleep, and breathe. They are all human and require very little, yet they go into debt, spend money they don't actually have, to elevate themselves to a higher level in the rank structure. Million dollar homes.

Have you ever held one million dollars?

Neither have the people that own those homes with those prices. Nor will they. Ever. Less than, oh I don't know, we'll estimate high, two percent maybe, of all the people in the United States will ever have a seven figure bank account. There are a whole lot of people that have that same seven figure account with a big negative sign before it though. Every time something new comes out and is proclaimed a "must have" by someone higher in this rank structure, the lower ones clambor to get it and drive themselves farther into the hole. Its a system that will, yes will, fall. Eventually there is going to be a demographic of people that are so far into debt that they and their children, to whom their debt is passed upon death, could work every day of their miserable lives to pay off and still won't be able to. When this happens, the middle and bottom of our tower crumbles and the whole interdependant system comes crashing down. Companies that manufacture the things that people go into debt for and the various entities that loan people money to get the things they're going into debt for, are suddenly assaulted with all of these bankruptcies and missed payments. The banks and loan companies and credit unions cannot function without the debt cycle. They fall. The manufacturers no longer have someone to sell their wares to because the middle class demoraphic is gone, the rich already have everything they want, and the poor can not afford the expensive things. They fall. The rich that have the majority of their money invested, watch it disappear faster then they can burn it. Its kind of funny that they will flip out, considering that the same money that they are so worried about, won't mean diddly once this fall comes. The government, seeing this massive financial crash will try to fix things, but the funny thing is, they're in debt too. The finances of not only the people, but the very ruling body of the country, become vapid. Writing a check to yourself and adding that check to what money you actually have doesn't mean you have twice as much money. It means you have twice as many numbers that are worth half as much. To those that figured it out, that's exactly what "inflation" is. Money ends up meaning nothing. If our tower is based on people's desire to be better than another person, the concrete that built it is money. Money falls, the tower falls.

I don't intend on being in this tower when it falls.

Thus, I've come up with my Bug Out Bag. It is simply a bag of supplies, with only the most basic of gear within. I won't give specifics, because it is going to be mine alone, and yours will be unique to you. It should be enough supply to sustain a couple people for a good while, and at the same time light enough and compact enough to be carried by one person for an extended period of time. Food bars, water filters, firestarters, and a basic medical kit are a start. Personalize and have a bit of fun with it. Just make sure you can still carry it after you're done. Hell, maybe your kit will become the new fashion, eh? That'd be the day...

The end is coming, my friends. It is all going to come down around our ears and there isn't a damned thing that we can do about it. There is no way to break people, as ingrained this caste system is in their minds, of their ways. It is like trying to get the entirety of the faiths of Judaisim and Islam to eat pork. You may get a few, but the majority is going to lynch you. Figure out where you would like to go. It doesn't really matter where, but I would recommend staying away from major cities unless you need supply. The caste system is only going to change, not go away, when it falls. We're going to have gangs form with their own rank structure. People with guns that have lost a lot tend to get violent. The new system will be based on blood. Those that can shoot, stab, or fight their way to the top will lead. Bartering will return and hopefully we're smart enough to keep it that way.

In a way, the end as I see it taking place is almost a beautiful thing. Everyone on a high horse is brought back down to earth. Every single person is reset to equality. Each and every person who makes it through "The Tumble" should be gracious for every single breath they take, because someone stronger than you may just decide to come along and cut your throat for the knife on your belt or the sandwich in your hands. It will usher in an age that will force change, and it is time for change, my friends.

So, in the eternal words of "V": "If you see what I see. If you feel as I feel..." Then make sure you have your Bug Out Plan. We're going to need it. The Tumble is coming.

I may not be right.
I may not be fully informed.
I am ready.
I hope this reaches people.

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« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2008, 07:23:53 PM »

    Good Article and all, but the anthropological sequence of human society at the beginning is incorrect. Not to say that I am disagreeing with your purpose and intent; but, humans went from Hunter-Gatherers, with fire, stone tools, and basic units of people, to Horticulturists, about ten thousand years ago, when we began the roots of modern Agriculture. Horticulture created more food, more efficiently than hunting and gathering, which lead to more people. Following Horticulture, came Agriculture, the difference between the two being the scale of the operation. The efficiency of Agriculture lead to a smaller number of people needed for the process of food production; though, while less were needed, 90% of the group was still involved in food production. The remaining 10%, began to develop specializations in the time they spent not involved in food production. It was this efficiency that eventually lead to the refining of metals, and eventually to guns, steel, and all of the things we know and use today. If you want to learn more, or want the opportunity to point out any mistakes I may have made in my summary, I suggest you read Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs, and Steel. In his book, he attempts to elucidate, why exactly different cultures developed at different rates, and why the Europeans conquered the New World. It is a very interesting read, and it is not too euro-centric in going about things. Other than that, it would be a good article for people new to the idea of Wogs and/or the whole concept of Survivalism .
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2008, 08:24:21 AM »

My predecessor at the PAA was a man of strong conviction.  Those who knew him might have considered him a bit opinionated, except his opinions were based upon his perceptions of reality.  I can respect that.  So when I quote his post in its entirety, understand that he had his reasons for saying what he said about Mr. Long.

It seems approprate to include Dave's preface to Mr. Long's Essay, which I will also quote in its entirety here.

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Man, I fucking HATE Duncan Long.

Mostly because of some of the things he's published about the AR-15 - little disagreements here and there.

But dammit, this little shit of an article he put together back in 1989 pretty much blows the whole bugout project out of the water.

Sean Kennedy still has it right: Know where you're going, and who will go with you.

Everything else might just be wishful thinking.

I'm not going to abandon my philosophies or the PAA based on this one article by Mr. Long, but I am going to consider a long-term lifestyle instead of stopgap measures, which may end up in my relocation. The upside to this article is that he does mention that a BoB still has validity and CAN be useful - and he explains when and why.

So, without further ado, I bring you:

Backpack Fever: Misconceptions of Bugging Out

This file may be downloaded and distribuded as BACKPACK FEVER or BACKPACK SURVIVAL
Copyright (C) Duncan Long 1989. All rights reserved.

There's a lot of confusion about what survival means. To some, it's getting through the aftermath of an airplane wreck in a desolate area. It can mean knowing when to avoid walking in radioactive wastes. Or, it can mean knowing how to barter with troops in the aftermath of riots, war, and looting. To others, survival has to do with avoiding danger and knowing how to deal with it when it breaks into your home in the dead of night.

Survival ideas abound and there are as many definitions and strategies as there are survivalists. Some have good ideas for survival and some have unsound tactics. Bad ideas can mean extra work or trouble in everyday life; bad ideas during a survival situation get you killed. On-the-job training doesn't work when you're dealing with poison and gunfights. Or survival.

One of the most dangerous ideas--as far as I'm concerned--is that of "backpack survival."

A "back-pack survivalist" is a survivalist that plans on leaving his home ahead of a disaster and taking to the woods with only what he can carry out with him. He plans to survive through a strategy that is a sort of cross between the Boy-Scout-in-the-woods and Robinson Crusoe. The backpack survivalist plans on outrunning danger with a four-wheel drive or a motorcycle and hopes to travel light with a survival kit of everything he might need to cope with the unexpected. He hasn't cached anything in the area he's headed for because, chances are, he doesn't know where he's headed. Somehow, he hopes to overcome all odds with a minimum of supplies and a maximum of smarts. Certainly it is a noble cause; but it seems like one destined to failure. And that's not survival.

(Let's back up a minute. Backpack fever--or bug-outosis--does makes sense when you're facing a localized disaster like a derailed train with overturned poisonous gas cars. A a potential nuclear meltdown, an impending hurricane, or similar disasters where there is a safe place to run to. During such a time, it makes perfect sense to retreat and come back when things settle down. Likewise, some people have to work in dangerous areas. For them, donning a backpack and heading for a retreat that they've prepared before hand is a viable survival strategy. These people aren't backpack survivalists.)

Let me make a confession. Yes, I once was a closet backpack survivalist. I had an ALICE pack and had it packed with all I could carry. As I learned more about how to survive, I realized I needed to carry more. Soon I discover- ed that, just for my family to survive for a very few days, I'd need a pack mule and/or a hernia operation... Something was very wrong.

Probably most beginner survivalists start out the same way. Things are bad so let's bug out. Backpack survivalism is an effort to deal with the possibility of a major disaster. As backpack survivalists, we make elaborate plans centered around the idea of "bugging out" of the area we live in. We hope to travel to an area that is safer than the one we're in and plan on living off the land or on some survival supplies we've hidden in the area. On the home front, we carefully prepare a stock of supplies that we can quickly cart off in a car or van when things start to look bad.

As more and more plans are made and as ever more survival gear is purchased, the survivalist realizes just how much he needs to cope with in order to survive. If he is any sort of realist, he soon amasses enough gear to warrant a truck or--more likely--a moving van just for carrying the survival equipment. (And don't laugh, there are survivalists who have large trucks for just such use.)

Some brave souls continue to make more elaborate plans and some of these survivalists may be able to pull off their plans. Those who have really thought things out and have spared no expenses may manage to survive with a bug-out strategy. But I think there are more logical--and less expensive--ways to survive a large crisis.

Forget all your preconceived notions for a minute.

Imagine that there is a national emergency and you are an outside observer? What happens if a nuclear attack is eminent, an economic collapse has occurred, or a dictator has taken over and is ready to round up all malcontents (with survivalists at the top of the list)?

Situations change with time. The survivalist movement--and backpack fever--first started up when gas guzzler cars were about all that anyone drove. That meant that a survivalist with some spare gasoline could outdis- tance his unprepared peers and get to a retreat that was far from the maddening crowd, as it were. (Read some of Mel Tappan's early writing on survival retreats. His ideas are good but many have been undone with the new, fuel-efficient cars.)

With cars getting 30 or even 40 miles per gallon, it isn't rare for a car to be able to travel half way across a state on less than a tank of gasoline. The exodus from cities or trouble spots will be more limited by traffic snarls than lack of gasoline even if the gas stations are completely devoid of their liquid fuel.

Too, there are a lot of people thinking about what to do if the time for fleeing comes. A lot of people will be headed for the same spots. (Don't laugh that off, either. In my area, every eighth person has confided his secret retreat spot to me. And about half of them are all headed for the same spot: an old missile silo devoid of water and food. I suspect that the battle at the gates of the old missile base will rival the Little Big Horn.)

No matter how out-of-the-way their destination, most survivalists are kidding themselves if they think others won't be headed for their hideaway spot along with them. There are few places in the US which aren't accessible to anyone with a little driving skill and a good map.

Too, there are few places which aren't in grave danger during a nuclear war, Pandemic, or national social unrest.

Though most nuclear war survival books can give you a nice little map showing likely targets, they don't tell you some essential information. Like what the purpose of the attack will be. The enemy may not be aiming for military targets that day; a blackmail threat might begin by hitting the heart of the farmland or a number of cities before demanding the surrender of the country being attacked. The target areas on the maps might be quite safe.

And the maps show where the missiles land IF they all enjoy 100 percent accuracy and reliability. Anyone know of such conditions in war? With Soviet machinery!? Targets may be relatively safe places to be in.

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2008, 08:24:36 AM »

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Added to this is the fact that some areas can be heavily contaminated or completely free of contamination depending on the wind directions in the upper atmosphere. Crystal ball in your survival gear?

But let's ignore all the facts thus far for a few moments and assume that a backpack survivalist has found an ideal retreat and is planning to go there in the event of a national disaster... What next?

His first concern should be that he'll have a hard time taking the supplies he needs with him. A nuclear war might mean that it will be impossible to grow food for at least a year and foraging is out as well since animals and plants may be contaminated extensively.

An economic collapse wouldn't be much better. It might discourage the raising of crops; no money, no sales except for the barter to keep a small farm family going. With large corporations doing much of our farming these days, it is not unreasonable to expect a major famine coming on the heals of an economic collapse. Raising food would be a good way to attract starving looters from miles around.

Ever try to pack a year's supply of food for a family into a small van or car? There isn't much room left over. But the backpack survivalist needs more than just food.

If he lives in a cold climate (or thinks there might be something to the nuclear winter theory) then he'll need some heavy clothing.

Rifles, medicine, ammunition, tools, and other supplies will also increase what he'll need to be taking or which he'll have to hide away at his retreat site.

Shelter? Building a place to live (in any style other than early-American caveman) takes time. If he builds a cabin beforehand, he may find it vandalized or occupied when he gets to his retreat; if he doesn't build it beforehand, he may have to live in his vehicle or a primitive shelter of some sort.

Thus, a major problem is to get a large enough vehicle to carry everything he needs as well as to live in.

History has shown that cities empty themselves without official evacuation orders when things look bad. It happened in WW II and has even happened in the US during approaching hurricanes, large urban fires, and nuclear reactor problems.

So there's a major problem of timing which the backpack survivalist must contend with. He has to be packed and ready to go with all members of his family at the precise moment he learns of the disaster! The warning he gets that warrants evacuating an area will have to be acted on quickly if he's to get out ahead of the major traffic snarls that will quickly develop. A spouse at work or shopping or kids across town at school means he'll either have to leave them behind or be trapped in the area he's in. A choice not worth having to make.

Unless he's got a hot-line from the White House, the backpack survivalist will not hear the bad news much ahead of everyone else. If he doesn't act immediately, he'll be trapped out on the road and get a first-hand idea of what grid-lock is like if he's in an urban area. Even out on the open road, far away from a city, an interstate can become hectic following a ballgame... Imagine what it would be like if everyone were driving for their lives, some cars were running out of fuel (and the occupants trying to stop someone for a ride), and the traffic laws were being totally ignored while the highway patrol tried to escape along with everyone else. Just trying to get off or on major highways might become impossible. If things bog down, how long can the backpack survivalist keep those around from helping to unload his truck-load of supplies that they'll be in bad need of?

Telling them they should have prepared ahead of time won't get many sympathetic words.

Even on lightly-traveled roadways, how safe would it be to drive around in a vehicle loaded with supplies? Our backpack survivalist will need to defend himself.

But let's suppose that he's thought all this out. He has a large van, had the supplies loaded in it, managed to round every member of his family up beforehand, somehow got out of his area ahead of the mob, is armed to the teeth, and doesn't need to take an interstate route.

When he reaches his destination, his troubles are far from over.

The gridlock and traffic snarls won't stop everyone. People will slowly be coming out of heavily populated areas and most of them will have few supplies. They will have weapons (guns are one of the first things people grab in a crisis according to civil defense studies) and the evacuees will be desperate. How many pitched battles will the survivalist's family be able to endure? How much work--or even sleep--can he get when he's constantly on the lookout to repel those who may be trying to get a share of his supplies?

This assumes that he gets to where he's going ahead of everyone else. He might not though. If he has to travel for long, he may discover squatters on his land or find that some local person has staked out his retreat area for their own. There won't be any law to help out; what happens next? Since (according to military strategists) our backpack survivalist needs about three times as many people to take an area as to defend it, he will need to have some numbers with him and expect to suffer some casualties. Does that sound like a good way to survive?

What about the local people that don't try to take over his retreat before he gets there? Will they be glad to see another stranger move into the area to tax their limited supplies? Or will they be setting up roadblocks to turn people like the backpack survivalist away?

But let's just imagine that somehow he's discovered a place that doesn't have a local population and where those fleeing cities aren't able to get to. What happens when he gets to his retreat? How good does he need to be at hunting and fishing? One reason mankind went into farming was that hunting and fishing don't supply enough food for a very large population nor do they work during times of drought or climatic disruption. What does he do when he runs out of ammunition or game? What happens if the streams become so contaminated that he can't safely eat what he catches? Can he stake out a large enough area to guarantee that he won't depleat it of game so that the next year is not barren of animals?

Farming? Unless he finds some unclaimed farm machinery and a handy storage tank of gasoline at his retreat, he'll hardly get off first base. Even primitive crop production requires a plow and work animals (or a lot of manpower) to pull the blade. No plow, no food for him or domestic animals.

And domestic animals don't grow on trees. Again, unless he just happens to find some cows waiting for him at his retreat, he'll be out of luck. (No one has packaged freeze-dried cows or chickens--at least, not in a form you can reconstitute into living things).

Intensive gardening? Maybe. But even that takes a lot of special tools, seeds, know-how, and good weather. Can he carry what he needs and have all the skills that can be developed only through experience?

Even if he did, he might not have any food to eat. Pestilence goes hand in hand with disasters. Our modern age has forgotten this. But during a time when chemical factories aren't churning out the insecticides and pest poisons we've come to rely on, our backpack survivalist should be prepared for waves of insects flooding into any garden he may create. How good is he at making insecticides? Even if he carries out a large quantity of chemicals to his retreat, how many growing seasons will they last?

Did he truck out a lot of gasoline and an electrical generator with him? No? Do you REALLY think he can create an alcohol still from scratch in the middle of no-where without tools or grain? Then he'd better write off communications, lighting, and all the niceties of the 20th Century after his year's supply of batteries wear out and his vehicle's supply of gasoline conks out.

I'm afraid we've only scratched the surface though. Thus far things have been going pretty well. What happens when things get really bad? How good is he at removing his spouse's appendix--without electric lights, pain killers, or antiseptic conditions? Campfire dental work, anyone?

How good is he at making ammunition? Clothing? Shoes?

I think you'll have to agree that this hardly seems like survival in style. Even if our backpack survivalist is able to live in the most spartan of conditions and has the know-how to create plenty out of the few scraps around him, he'll never have much of a life ahead of him.

Camping out is fun for a few days. Living in rags like a hunted animal doesn't sound like an existence to be aimed for.

The bottom line with backpack fever is that, with any major disaster that isn't extremely localized, running is a panic reaction not a survival strategy. Running scared is seldom a good survival technique and backpack fever during any but a localized disaster (like a flood or chemical spill) looks like it would be a terminal disease with few, rare exceptions.

So what's the alternative?

A number of writers, from Kurt Saxon to Howard Ruff to Mel Tappan, have already suggested it but I think that it bears a retelling.

What they've said is this: get yourself situated in a small community that could get by without outside help if things came unglued nationally or internationally. Find a spot that allows you to live in the life-style you've grown accustomed to (and a community that allows you to carry on your livelihood) but which has the ability to grow its own food and protect its people from the unprepared (or looters) that might drift in from surrounding cities during a crisis. This spot has the ability to carry on trade within its borders and has a number of people who can supply specialized products or professional skills.

An area with two thousand to five thousand people in it along with a surrounding farm community would be ideal but sizes can vary a lot according to the climate and city. Ideally such a town would have its own power plant with a few small industries along with the usual smattering of doctors, dentists, and other professionals.

This type of community isn't rare in the US. It's quite common in almost every state. You could probably even take a little risk and commute into a city if you must keep your current job. (In such a case a reverse backpack survival strategy just might work--you'd be bugging out to your home.)

Western civilization stepped out of the dark ages when small communities started allowing people to specialize in various jobs. Rather than each many being his own artisan, farmer, doctor, carpenter, etc., men started learning to master one job they enjoyed doing. Each man become more efficient at doing a job and--through the magic of capitalism--western culture finally started upward again.

A small modern community like the one suggested above, when faced with a national economic collapse or the aftermath of a nuclear war, would eventually lift itself up the same way. It would give those who lived in it the same chance for specialization of work and the ability to carry on mutual trade, support, and protection. Such small communities will be the few light spots in a Neo-Dark Age.

Which place would you rather be: in a cave, wondering where the food for tomorrow would come from, or with a group of people living in their homes, working together to overcome their problems? Even the most individualistic of survivalists shouldn't find the choice too hard to make.

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Wow. Well, I just feel that fucking much better. Wish Tampa had more farmland, but it's getting to be all built up with industry, and places that used to be pastures are now concrete and steel.

The worst part about it is, I don't know when critical mass actually is, when it's time to evacuate the urban blight and head somewhere more appropriate with enough inherent self-sufficiency to negate the need to bug out to ANYWHERE.

This essay raises more questions than answers, and I ain't got 'em.

What do you think?

DG

I think that pretty much says it all.  If the end is truly coming, a bugout bag is a band-aid over cancer.  The bugout bag is to get you to your Retreat, and according to Mr. Long, you should be right now, after building your bugout bag, looking for a way to sustain yourself at your retreat -- finding a retreat, figuring out how to buy the land, figuring out how to have an income while living on your land, etc.

Mr. Long promotes a lifestyle change, vs. "Backpack Fever".

But at the same time, those of us who DON'T have Retreats yet, the BoB is the best option.

Remember what SK said in Wear Body Armor: "Know where you're going, and who's coming with you, and never get that order screwed up."

Know.  Where.  You're.  Going.  With.  That.  Bugout.  Bag.

I'd like to point out that I think Dave put his "money where his mouth is," because not long after posting this, he left the PAA to me and mentioned something about Montana.

I haven't heard from him since.

I'm hoping one day I will.  I'm hoping he built his retreat up there and is waiting for us to join him.

As of right now, he hasn't.  It's been a couple of years.  I may have to go and do it myself.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2008, 12:25:14 PM »

Nice article. Really more of an educated rant than an article, in my opinion.

The problem here is that, we all know what the problem is, but none of us know the solution.

Unless we get the majority of the country behind us (which, will not happen. The people like their mcdonalds too much) violent revolution will not work. While this option should remain open, it should be regarded as a bad idea and put at the very end of the list of possible solutions.

Is bugging out a solution? not really. It will help those of us 'in the know' to live more comfortably, and may be the beginning of rebuilding, but it does not solve the greater problem. eventually this will all come full circle if we rebuild.

This is why everyone loves Ron Paul, for the first time in decades, someone steps forward and says 'we can fix this' instead of 'theres a problem'.

I don't have solutions either, but i'm working on it. The one thing I see, is that everyone and their dog makes a documentary these days about how screwed up everything is, and urges people to 'get involved'. Don't get me wrong, this is great, but it just seems like people are thinking too much about the problem and not enough about the solution. It's like a water main breaking, and telling everyone that the water main is broken, and they tell everyone that the water main is broken. Sure, now everyone knows and agrees the water main needs to be fixed, but the water main is still broken. No one knows how to fix the water main.

My steps to a solution - learn how to fix it. to learn how to fix it you must first learn how it works. Learn about how your system works (and i don't mean the stuff you were taught in school)  focus on the areas dealing with money, contacts, debt. notice how they are all related? once you learn one, you will find ties into the next and the next and the next.

No one can ever fully comprehend this in it's entirety, so get together with some like minded friends, all learning different things, share information. When we get enough people truly understanding what is going on and how to fix it, when these polititions bumble around and make a mess of things, the average joe can stand up and go "screw him, we'll do this ourselves"

I'm going to stop my rambling now. Hope I didn't derail the thread.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2008, 01:02:08 PM »

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Is bugging out a solution? not really. It will help those of us 'in the know' to live more comfortably, and may be the beginning of rebuilding, but it does not solve the greater problem.

Yea, it's temporary in a way.. But in the same way that martial law or internment camps are temporary. I know which one I'd rather choose to spend the time.

I go into detail about my ideas of solutions in my Storm The Wire Audio broadcast which you can find on kevinisageek.org/mirror/avagdu but I'll try to summarize:

1) Get independent: Get your Belt Line Kit, Essentials Bag and AWOL Bag. Store a good supply of food, water and fuel. Get a vehicle and a bug out location.

2) Buy property near water and trees: Use renewable sources of energy and a low-power, off-grid lifestyle.  Grow food. Live in a small, possibly mobile house.

3) Trade, Leave no paper trail: Be off the books. Trade and develop a parallel economy while avoiding banks, fiat currency and government forms. See Agorism.

These techniques can work on a microcosm level to enable you to live more free regardless of what the majority of people are doing, but will also gain acceptance as the public at large see the advantage of this as the government implodes.

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2008, 07:23:39 PM »

Yea, it's temporary in a way.. But in the same way that martial law or internment camps are temporary. I know which one I'd rather choose to spend the time.

Don't get me wrong, i'm all for bugging out should it come to that, I would just rather not see it come to that. I got the bag, I got the crypto, i got the beltline kit. I'd also like to take a solid shot at maybe not having everything go to hell around me. Regardless of how independent you are, unless you live on a 100% self sufficient farm in the middle of nowhere with no one around for miles, you will still be affected by economic SHTF. I don't know if we can stop economic shtf, in the latest omg omg omg we're all gonna dye" news, Bank of america is buying out Merril Lynch http://www.cnbc.com/id/26708319  Which could cause HUGE new york stock market destableisation, this right on the heels of the fannie and freddie thing. All within a very short timespan.

To summarize, yeah, it looks like the tumble is coming. soon.
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Regardless of how independent you are, unless you live on a 100% self sufficient farm in the middle of nowhere with no one around for miles, you will still be affected by economic SHTF.

Well, yes. Nothing is fool proof, but finding out how to stack the deck in your favor is what I'm talking about. None of these things are outside the reach of the average person.  Stocking up on the necessities of life and preparing is not difficult. 

The hard part is choosing where and how to live to avoid risks to the point where you feel comfortable.

But we have to stop being paralyzed by the doomsday scenarios and focus on getting what we really need now. It's a matter of priorities.

Are we ever going to have a perfect system? Probably not, but at least we can say that we did the best we could.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2008, 11:49:36 PM »

Perhaps we should arrange WOG bug out areas per community or State and area?

Any Ideas?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 12:41:50 AM »

I'd go out with some like minds and investigate a remote or secure place on your own. Most people like to keep their locations private.
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I would happily like to announce that I am accepting submissions for PA1N 18. You can find the relevant email addresses (myself and alienbinary for submissions, CaponeX for graphics work) at the PA1N contacts page found at the URL below.

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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2008, 08:19:12 PM »

Wow, didn't expect this many replies. Thank you all for the replies and thank you for the article Scott.

The Bug Out Bag isn't ever meant to be a permanent thing. There is no way any person could possibly carry everything one person needs to survive indefinitely on his back. Its just not feasible. Getting away from major sources of unrest is what it is for, and having enough supplies to get you to somewhere safe is what it is for.

I know that the article isn't exactly professional, and it is an "Educated Rant", but I really wish that there was some way to make the general populace of the United States see things in a different light. I want to see people contribute to solutions to the problems we all see and are constantly reminded of.

I myself find the workings of economics and government far too complex for my mind to understand. I can build a gun, a clock, a car. Those things make sense to me, but institutions and the way they work, I do not. If someone smarter than me can come up with a way to prevent the way I see things going down, I am behind them 110%.

I hope someone comes up with something soon.

Thanks for the replies guys.
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 08:53:44 AM »

Trouble is, there isn't a solution to what's coming.

As Claire Wolfe so succinctly put it:  "America's at that awkward stage:  It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the bastards."

Because the situation thrust upon us is being perpetrated by the motivated at the top, and the ignorant and gullible at the bottom, with a solid social and economic push towards it, we who are both enlightened but not in a position to make decisions for others because we are not populous elect, we must stand by and take the pounding as it comes.

You are correct about the limitations of the BoB (Bug out Bag).  Mr. Long's vision has merit;  To find a place, a retreat, a community of like-minded people.  We talked about it in great length in the "Wog Town?" Thread.

We went through such considerations as buying property out in the middle of nowhere, the logistics of moving, the difficulties of buying land that's cheap (because it's probably cheap due to lack of available power or other resources), and the social difficulties that can result with a remote, closed societal system.

The most optimal solution we've come up with to date (and I do mean We, credit where credit is due, I didn't come up with it -- I just don't remember who did off the top of my head), is to find a small suburban community in a geographical location where housing is relatively inexpensive, and move into the neighborhood.  Then we started looking at neighborhoods.

I'm still a big fan of Ft. Collins, Colorado.  Although I have to admit, I've always wanted to live in Alaska.

What's kinda weird is that I'm actually really happy right where I'm at;  I just wish I had more land down here.  Because if I did...Florida's got an hospitable climate, both meteorologically and politically, and escaping the country is just a boat ride away.

And land can be had in Hernando and Citrus counties.

They just don't have the IT business opportunities that other places do, but we're not complete hicks, either.

Well, okay, some of us are.

I'm just saying...IT might be a little difficult to get good paying gigs down here...though I know a few people who have them.

Maybe more research is necessary, but I really, really like Florida.

Maybe we Wogs can all become snowbirds, come down here in the winter, go north in the summer.

Whenever you get large groups of people together to make a decision, someone's not going to be 100 percent happy.

That's why there are so many different places to live.  But if I could buy a couple hundred acres down here, reasonably centrally located between the smaller cities or maybe between Tampa and Orlando (Lakeland?), it IS feasible to live on property and commute.

After that, it's just a matter of logistics.

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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 06:33:19 PM »

Scott:

When were you going to tell ME about this?

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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 08:26:45 PM »

You found out here, didn't you?  Now you understand why I sent you the link.

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