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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2008, 06:05:54 PM » |
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I think the bigger question is, why doesn't Cim and Sean try to bake up some new video material and join the Rev3 lineup?
I'm thinking something like the old SKTFM Radio Show meets Epic-Fu. Perhaps Sean could do Newsreal for Video on something that resembles the Colbert Report or Daily Show sets.
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point is, Rant Radio needs an infusion of new blood and revision3beta.com is looking.
Opportunity is knocking.
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Yugosaki
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2008, 06:40:27 PM » |
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I think the bigger question is, why doesn't Cim and Sean try to bake up some new video material and join the Rev3 lineup?
probably because 1) rantmedia stands on it's own two feet, and is one of, if not the, oldest online media station around. Throwing that all away would be a shame 2) revision3 is HIGHLY commercialized and for-profit, they just use ads rather than charging for the media itself. And as far as i know, both sean and cimm are highly against commercializing rant. 3) revision3 would take control of the content and the show, it wouldn't belong to sean and cimm anymore 4) revision3 also is in california, and their studio is in california, all their editing staff is there. They would probably reject it anyways because they can't control production from there. edit: don't take it as though i hate them, i quite like them. the ads irritate me a little though. I would never submit my content to them, unless they paid me a very large amount, mainly because of the commercial thing. By large I mean more than enough to have as my only income. |
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Optimism- Ignoring the obvious
Pessimism- Believing the world sucks and if the worst can happen, it will happen.
Survivalism- realizing the universe is malevolent and doing everything in your power to thwart it's plans.
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Loopster
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2008, 06:00:18 PM » |
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There is another thread where someone (can't remember who) says we can probably create better content than we could download online anyhow. Public TV is total crap and we could make better shows than that. There are also public domain movies and media like 'the last man on earth' and 'night of the living dead' and books, software, and what not. Maybe we could make something similar in layout to revision3 but much better. Something with original content. Heres the idea:
It works like the old BBSs where you have to contribute to get D/L access. You write a book or make a show (like patrolling or what have you) and you get full access to everything else. Becoming the media would help eliminate the need for the media. With enough experience we could produce tons of stuff better than what you see on TV. No FCC, no outside influences, no govt, just a bunch of artists sharing their work... and creating a massive library of kick ass stuff.
We would need a server to host the files but unlike the WOGvpn, we wouldn't need to worry about snoops per se. Things like this tend to grow into their own monsters and with enough momentum, it could really take off.
*Rev3 was originally just 'the Broken' and it was so cool back then. Now the 'hacker' tips are totally PC (politically correct.)
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2008, 11:56:30 PM » |
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There is another thread where someone (can't remember who) says we can probably create better content than we could download online anyhow. Public TV is total crap and we could make better shows than that. There are also public domain movies and media like 'the last man on earth' and 'night of the living dead' and books, software, and what not. Maybe we could make something similar in layout to revision3 but much better. Something with original content. Heres the idea:
It works like the old BBSs where you have to contribute to get D/L access. You write a book or make a show (like patrolling or what have you) and you get full access to everything else. Becoming the media would help eliminate the need for the media. With enough experience we could produce tons of stuff better than what you see on TV. No FCC, no outside influences, no govt, just a bunch of artists sharing their work... and creating a massive library of kick ass stuff.
We would need a server to host the files but unlike the WOGvpn, we wouldn't need to worry about snoops per se. Things like this tend to grow into their own monsters and with enough momentum, it could really take off.
*Rev3 was originally just 'the Broken' and it was so cool back then. Now the 'hacker' tips are totally PC (politically correct.) Only issues with such a system is: * There would need to be a server with tons of bandwidth. This costs money. Another option thats free is to make a sort of p2p like network with sharing abilities (or "borrow" the open code of one thats already around). With the server method there would need to be money. If people donate they may expect access which will use more bandwidth the the donation would probably cover. Using the p2p based method would be free but it would HAVE to support UPNP and the users would either need a UPNP router or be able to forward ports properly (I currently can't forward ports because my ISP is an ass). * Bandwidth! Media uses tons of bandwidth. This will always be a problem with a free system. * Snoops, spies and fcc. At some point if the system got large enough, the government will take notice and infiltrate the system to make sure no "terrorist activities" are going on. * Illegal use. If anyone uses it for illegal use, the whole system could be jeopardized. * Getting people to let go of their unused bandwith * Programmers. Programmers would be needed with a server or p2p system. |
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It was fun and I thank everyone for everything they have done.
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Loopster
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2008, 12:20:04 AM » |
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You would think there would already be a way for your computer to broadcast a signal (like radio) for a private network that only you and select people had the encryption key for. Something that would range about five miles and each computer in your "neighborhood" would repeat the broadcast. It would be like a wireless private network that could potentially go forever. It would seem that something like that would be very useful. It would be really hand if you could boost the signal to hit spots that you knew where they were. I believe a standard wireless laptop card can broadcast for a very long range if there's no visual interruption. I think these guys might have some info that might help: http://www.churchofwifi.org/ |
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2008, 01:05:29 AM » |
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You would think there would already be a way for your computer to broadcast a signal (like radio) for a private network that only you and select people had the encryption key for. Something that would range about five miles and each computer in your "neighborhood" would repeat the broadcast. It would be like a wireless private network that could potentially go forever. It would seem that something like that would be very useful. There already exists a system of a wireless p2p network. I can't remember the specifics but I think it was some Canadian guy who worked it out. The problem would be "interference" and range. With modified antennas you can broadcast a signal (low quality but still) over 20 miles if there is nothing in the way. If you mod the transceiver and antenna, you could possibly get over 100 miles but would also catch the eye of the FCC. Another potential option, rig up a ham radio to interface with a pc in such a way that two computers could make a connection over the ham radios. It would be very slow and very lossy and might not even work, but if it did it could work over great distances. Using the internet as a backbone would be the fastest and easiest route to the most people. However if it fails, its gone. A p2p wireless or even wired network would work but is highly limited on range if you follow the laws. |
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Loopster
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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2008, 04:12:19 PM » |
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Is there a law against broadcasting 802.11x over a distance of say, 10 miles?
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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2008, 04:40:55 PM » |
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Is there a law against broadcasting 802.11x over a distance of say, 10 miles? I don't think there's much in the way of distance rules. However I do believe there is laws dealing with how much power you can transmit with and the antenna is supposed to be "approved". So basically the cone antenna in that video is illegal. Using the amplifier is illegal. Modifying the wifi card technically is also illegal. That's probably why they kept the location secret and in the middle of pretty much nowhere. |
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Loopster
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2008, 05:42:13 PM » |
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Line of site would be required to have uninterrupted transmission. The guys at Defcon made a link of 200 miles with out any amplification using 802.11g band. They had a large receiver hooked into a standard satellite dish with a laptop wifi card duct taped to the reception point. This would not really help if you were going to do an open broadcast but if you knew the location of people in your neighborhood that you wanted to network with, it might. Wifi legal and other data: http://www.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/cfrassemble.cgi?title=200747http://www.hallikainen.com/FccRuleshttp://www.lns.com/papers/part15/Regulations_Affecting_802_11.pdf3.1.2 – Point to Point
For 802.11b point-to-point uses, the FCC encourages directional antennas to minimize interference to
other users. The FCC in fact is more lenient with point-to-point links, as it only requires the TPO to be
reduced by 1/3 of a dB as compared to a full dB for point to multipoint.
More specifically, for every 3 dB of antenna gain over a 6 dBi antenna, you need to reduce the TPO 1
dB below 1 watt. For example, a 24 dBi antenna is 18 dB over a 6 dBi antenna. You would have to
lower a 1 watt (30 dBm) transmitter 18/3 or 6 dB to 24 dBm or ¼ watt. All that being said, there may be another signal that is not YET regulated by the FCC. I recall hearing about it last year but I am still searching for the info. |
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2008, 12:03:40 AM » |
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Anyone familiar with www.justin.tv?Here is a sample I set up a while back, haven't been using it for anything though. http://www.justin.tv/nicotineJustin.tv has streaming video, youtube playlists, embedding, and a neat little chat box for whoever is watching the channel at the moment. 100% free too. |
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2008, 05:10:24 PM » |
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sorry i know this was out of sequence, but I was really flattered that r4nger5 TV was selected for this trial run. Sorry about the delay, just got back from the r4nger5 meet yesterday.
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« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2008, 01:56:59 PM » |
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@MarkReeves: Is there any thing at Defcon that is *NOT* technically, morally or outside of the purview of US law?
All I can say is, 1/2 the fun of Defcon is doing things that are not in the sense, legal or sound of mind.
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Loopster
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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2008, 11:22:00 AM » |
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Here it is. Skip to around 23:00
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« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2008, 04:28:20 PM » |
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@enloopious: interesting...
Wonder how useful this would be against the national id that's supposed to be coming (assuming it was miniaturized)
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For anyone wondering, I'm bowing out. It was great being here but I have to move on. I wish I could stay and keep contributing here but it just can't continue.
It was fun and I thank everyone for everything they have done.
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d/\t/\m/\gg0+
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2008, 01:02:38 PM » |
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It's not a bad idea, but Revision 3 has financial backing in the way of advertisers. I don't want to get into that realm of things, so i wonder how the cost will be.
Yeah, A long time ago, Kevin Rose partnered Revision 3 and digg.com with a large company (forget who someone like paypal) in order to pay for bandwidth costs. They talk about how much they pay for in bandwidth each month. It's really really high. I like the revision3 guys, and I'm happy they are successful. RE: rant radio and rev3 No way, Revision3 is the example of whoring yourself out to advertisers and stuff like that. Rev3 is the trendy mainstream channel. I have always just accepted the rev3 content as-is because they all came from the techtv - i wanna be a tv celeb camp. I would most likely quit supporting RR if they went the way of rev3. |
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